tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7311220114926530670.post7492185235464522514..comments2022-08-30T18:46:05.448-07:00Comments on < Insert Bridge-Related Pun Here >: Jackie JosephsonJohn Fabenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11639310598311571875noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7311220114926530670.post-29765157504427472642018-02-09T22:54:12.934-08:002018-02-09T22:54:12.934-08:00Probably, but we explicitly have an agreement that...Probably, but we explicitly have an agreement that we won't play in 3NT with an 8 card major fit, so 2NT can't be looking for the right game.John Fabenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11639310598311571875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7311220114926530670.post-82358209884744877232018-02-09T14:40:44.943-08:002018-02-09T14:40:44.943-08:00With a balanced hand and only three Hearts, should...With a balanced hand and only three Hearts, shouldn't you have raised 2NT to 3NT, taking partner's bid was natural?Dannyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06697396246838428198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7311220114926530670.post-75342078502246796502018-02-09T01:56:44.865-08:002018-02-09T01:56:44.865-08:00With screens you'd have no UI so can do what y...With screens you'd have no UI so can do what you like, but when you have UI you have to carefully avoid taking advantage of it. This means not making bids that partner can pass below game :)<br /><br />I am not committed to ruling down two, I'd probably take more time to work it out and try to ask someone else. But I was giving the benefit of the doubt to the non-offenders to get a point to start from.Paul Gipsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13564960646170455536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7311220114926530670.post-69994612801948852172018-02-09T01:52:01.844-08:002018-02-09T01:52:01.844-08:00Thanks Paul, I knew you'd give me an answer :)...Thanks Paul, I knew you'd give me an answer :)<br /><br />If we were playing with screens, I'm pretty certain I'd conclude from this auction that Norman had forgotten the system. Would I then be allowed to bid 3♥? But the obligation is stronger in the actual situation because I 'know' he's forgotten the system from the UI? <br /><br />Is the reason I'm supposed to bid game immediately because my hand isn't very suitable for slam? If I were a little bit stronger, then 3♥ might be a legitimate option? Although presumably I'd be obliged to look for an alternative bid to explore for slam (since 3♥ is suggested by the UI). It's worth noting that we have an explicit agreement that we will never play in 3NT once we have found an 8 card major fit, and in 5 years, I've never known Norman to open a 4 card major, so I think the ruling would have to be 4♥-2. <br /><br />Just to confirm, you would still rule -2 even though in practice Norman actually made 9 tricks in ♥s, because Jim should have been able to double 2♣ for a lead? Or because that's a 'normal' result on the board? John Fabenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11639310598311571875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7311220114926530670.post-1496960899755308372018-02-08T00:56:00.484-08:002018-02-08T00:56:00.484-08:00Dealing with UI from partner is always difficult e...Dealing with UI from partner is always difficult especially when you have limited time at the table to make a decision, so I don't blame you for your decisions but I think you are wrong.<br /><br />I'm surprised you are allowed to scrap the board since this would be an unlawful ruling from the TD, although again this is always more trouble in league matches without a competent TD on both sides, or an independent one. Perhaps if the match was close you could have called a referee?<br /><br />So your thinking was slightly skewed. You should not have been thinking of a weak no trump, as Norman would always bid 2H with that hand. It is only the UI making you think that.<br /><br />Norman may not have bid 2NT before, but if he had correctly alerted 2C and then bid 2NT, your thought processes would have been very different. You would not have considered a weak no trump, you would only be thinking about what time of hand he could possibly have. It could only be some non-minimum hand, whatever it is.<br /><br />Even after a double of 2C, you would probably bid 3NT with a balanced (4333) hand and a club stop or you may bid 4H as you have the ace of clubs.<br /><br />I would rule 50% of 3NT-1 and 50% of 4H-2.<br /><br />I regard this as a fairly simple UI ruling. I would not issue a PP for using UI since it is not easy, although if you kept insisting he could have a weak no trump then I would :)Paul Gipsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13564960646170455536noreply@blogger.com